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PD Moderator	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 9:34:14 AM Ignore PD Report Abuse Audi's Locus It's a done deal. In order to reduce U.S. dependency on foreign oil the federal government has mandated that auto manufacturers produce vehicles that comply with new CAFE (corporate average fuel economy) standards requiring each car company's fleet of vehicles to reach an average of 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025. How are they going to do that? Forbes gives you a peak at the future in the link below that shows many of the emerging automotive engineering innovations already under way. The changes we'll soon see focus on the following: Weight reduction. Look for more use of lighter materials such as plastic, aluminum and carbon fiber. Sleek Aerodynamics...because half of an engine's power is spent overcoming... Visit GasBuddy Blog for full article

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Audi's Locus It's a done deal. In order to reduce U.S. dependency on foreign oil the federal government has mandated that auto manufacturers produce vehicles that comply with new CAFE (corporate average fuel economy) standards requiring each car company's fleet of vehicles to reach an average of 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025.
How are they going to do that? Forbes gives you a peak at the future in the link below that shows many of the emerging automotive engineering innovations already under way.
The changes we'll soon see focus on the following:
Weight reduction. Look for more use of lighter materials such as plastic, aluminum and carbon fiber.
Sleek Aerodynamics...because half of an engine's power is spent overcoming...

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GotGasses Rookie Author North Carolina Posts:53 Points:21,025 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Aug 22, 2011 5:04:53 PM Ignore GotGasses Report Abuse Man I don't mind diesel, I just wish it would go lower in price than the more refined gasoline grades. Oh, well, it'll probably climb in price as more ppl turn to diesel engines, all the way crying the old "supply vs. demand" adage that only really means what "they" want it to in a given scenario.
stanleyvision All-Star Author San Diego Posts:869 Points:439,595 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Aug 18, 2011 11:59:12 PM Ignore stanleyvision Report Abuse Possible
gasokie Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:3,442 Points:1,323,805 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Aug 18, 2011 3:43:14 PM Ignore gasokie Report Abuse There is pressure from those who produce crude oil to sell it. If demand goes down so will prices and most producers are "stuck" if they can't sell all of it. Supply and demand. Always is. Always was. Always will be.
RogerB Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:18,056 Points:2,623,135 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Aug 18, 2011 6:30:26 AM Ignore RogerB Report Abuse I didn't see anything about plugging it in which is good.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,975 Points:2,344,535 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Aug 18, 2011 6:20:00 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse The higher the vehicle MPG, the less demand for fuel, the higher priced fuel will be. The oil companies will keep their profit margin, no matter what the MPG is! Will still need vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a reasonable cost and a good value for the money. I will continue to drive my current vehicle into the ground before buying anything new, old, different, EV, Inbred, concept or anything else.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,609 Points:1,608,545 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 18, 2011 5:07:21 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse scary how many people just spout Faux Noise rhethoric...
Blue48 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,300 Points:1,636,970 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Aug 17, 2011 9:36:39 PM Ignore Blue48 Report Abuse WE SHALL SEE WHAT HAPPENS!
movrshakr Champion Author Florida Posts:1,323 Points:1,448,125 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Aug 17, 2011 7:59:35 AM Ignore movrshakr Report Abuse . You folks are plain silly. Don't you realize that as as mpg goes up, gas price will increase to maintain the same revenue flow?
lcleveland Champion Author San Antonio Posts:2,656 Points:650,075 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Aug 17, 2011 7:33:06 AM Ignore lcleveland Report Abuse we will see
Gas_Buzzer Champion Author South Carolina Posts:14,149 Points:2,592,415 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 17, 2011 6:23:12 AM Ignore Gas_Buzzer Report Abuse Hussein Obammie is simply put...S-T-U-P-I-D !
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,609 Points:1,608,545 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 17, 2011 5:55:54 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse as for 50+ mpg, VW's Jetta TDI already has that and European cars (where btw the driving speed is on average a good bit higher than in the US), have on average better mileage than in the US. Oh yea... they don't have too many deaths either. And most vehicles are pretty comfortable, except for 400+ lb blimps...
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,609 Points:1,608,545 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 17, 2011 5:53:03 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse KWM: how are better fuel mileage AVERAGES going to cause more death?
JuicyQ69 All-Star Author San Bernardino Posts:643 Points:1,138,765 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Aug 17, 2011 1:55:41 AM Ignore JuicyQ69 Report Abuse Cool...I'll take two please.
RogerB Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:18,056 Points:2,623,135 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 11:59:14 PM Ignore RogerB Report Abuse Sounds like a plan
Number43 Champion Author Lexington Posts:8,692 Points:1,637,195 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 11:40:48 PM Ignore Number43 Report Abuse Nothing that takes effect in 15 years is a done deal. We will be part of china by then. The central committee will make that decision for us.
Number43 Champion Author Lexington Posts:8,692 Points:1,637,195 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 11:39:11 PM Ignore Number43 Report Abuse Smart people will buy cars from places that will use natural gas. Here in america we do not have the sense to build CNG cars. After all, we elected obamma or can we just blame that one on "ACORN".
Number43 Champion Author Lexington Posts:8,692 Points:1,637,195 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 11:36:03 PM Ignore Number43 Report Abuse Obamma the man who destroyed america.
Number43 Champion Author Lexington Posts:8,692 Points:1,637,195 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 11:35:05 PM Ignore Number43 Report Abuse How about obamma gets out and pushes the car. That would be about the only thing he is good for.
frostyWV Champion Author West Virginia Posts:2,339 Points:519,235 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 11:11:14 PM Ignore frostyWV Report Abuse probably a diesel/electric hybrid.
UpSol7 Champion Author Augusta Posts:1,643 Points:757,675 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 11:08:26 PM Ignore UpSol7 Report Abuse How about a great big wind-up key sticking out of the trunk? Technology from my childhood.
traindude Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:5,624 Points:1,495,105 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 11:06:39 PM Ignore traindude Report Abuse wow in only 14 short years, by that time maybe a new hawaian island may have formed
Badmoon Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:8,303 Points:1,650,515 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 11:06:01 PM Ignore Badmoon Report Abuse They could do it now if they wanted to.
rxman1 Champion Author Toledo Posts:9,540 Points:1,860,920 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 11:05:21 PM Ignore rxman1 Report Abuse Does it run on ethanol?
JoeKR Champion Author New Jersey Posts:9,463 Points:1,742,520 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 11:03:10 PM Ignore JoeKR Report Abuse I don't understand what the Audi Locus has to do with this article.
Z51Corvette Champion Author Austin Posts:8,480 Points:1,670,195 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 11:02:05 PM Ignore Z51Corvette Report Abuse At what cost will this happen... Reduce plastics consumption by 50% and we become independent again!
Holly123 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:3,192 Points:789,010 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 11:00:36 PM Ignore Holly123 Report Abuse Really??!!
Bizzybee2010 Sophomore Author Ontario Posts:133 Points:672,135 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:58:23 PM Ignore Bizzybee2010 Report Abuse I agree with us4usa, who's working on a diesel hybrid or a cng hybrid?
goodbuy Champion Author Michigan Posts:7,658 Points:1,420,630 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:56:43 PM Ignore goodbuy Report Abuse Maybe in their dreams.
rbrk02 Champion Author Rhode Island Posts:5,730 Points:816,030 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:51:49 PM Ignore rbrk02 Report Abuse From the article, "Automakers will thus have to dig deep into their engineering bags of tricks to make tomorrow’s cars and trucks more fuel efficient without the wholesale downsizing and de-powering that rocked the industry in the 1980’s." Good article and info, as long as these remain practical and functional for the average family. Matchbox size cars not only are not useful but can be deadly in an accident involving a more normally sized vehicle.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,984 Points:1,111,375 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:50:41 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse In order to reduce U.S. dependency on foreign oil, we should switch all cars and trucks to LNG/CNG.... Whats the MPG of a PLUG-IN CNG HYBRID???? Greater use of diesel power. Europeans have enjoyed the performance and fuel economy of diesel-powered vehicles for decades and their popularity is growing in the U.S. If we continue to see fuel prices climb higher year after year, that could turbo-charge this trend. Any one working on a Diesel Hybrid, and whats the MPG???
yonasb Champion Author Houston Posts:3,463 Points:737,625 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:48:16 PM Ignore yonasb Report Abuse i want that
Ray_10589 Champion Author New York Posts:4,941 Points:1,182,010 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:47:55 PM Ignore Ray_10589 Report Abuse the Chevy Sprint got 58 in the 80's whay can't we now ...
HiGramma Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,815 Points:445,690 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:47:39 PM Ignore HiGramma Report Abuse My dtr says Toyota once made a 50mpg auto but it was disco'd ... ?
menagerie1013 Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,365 Points:688,365 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:45:57 PM Ignore menagerie1013 Report Abuse The quoted "estimated" mileage on cars is that based on pure gas or a gas/ethanol mix?
Agabel Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:2,575 Points:1,159,485 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:45:17 PM Ignore Agabel Report Abuse will be interesting to see
FuelOilOH Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,837 Points:1,180,220 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:45:17 PM Ignore FuelOilOH Report Abuse The next 10 years will be real fun to see the vehicles they come out with.
Heltonw Champion Author Montana Posts:3,304 Points:1,658,390 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:44:37 PM Ignore Heltonw Report Abuse Sounds too good to be true. When that is done taxes will go through the roof to make up for lost gas tax.
Blue48 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,300 Points:1,636,970 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:42:25 PM Ignore Blue48 Report Abuse TIME WILL TELL!
rjoeh Champion Author Michigan Posts:7,076 Points:2,469,090 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:41:57 PM Ignore rjoeh Report Abuse Its a nice idea... but un practical. America does not want microscopic roller skates to get from here to there much less trying to bring home a load of groceries.
texasvet Champion Author Texas Posts:3,823 Points:360,120 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:41:49 PM Ignore texasvet Report Abuse If they'd stop putting crappy ethanol in the gasoline, a lot of cars could do over 40 mpg.
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,003 Points:1,111,445 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:35:16 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse 30 years ago I was getting this almost with my Ford Fiesta (49.9mpg)
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,003 Points:1,111,445 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:33:54 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse 10 years ago I got this mileage with my Metros
JAM11MS All-Star Author Mississippi Posts:830 Points:451,175 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:33:44 PM Ignore JAM11MS Report Abuse ok
satrn38mpg Champion Author Raleigh Posts:5,062 Points:1,052,065 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:25:19 PM Ignore satrn38mpg Report Abuse we still got a way 2 go to get there
ljmh Champion Author Akron Posts:3,047 Points:551,060 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:23:13 PM Ignore ljmh Report Abuse This i must see.
MidNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:7,546 Points:1,171,835 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:20:11 PM Ignore MidNJ Report Abuse Back to the Future #2 And what powered the Professors DeLorian ?
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berniMI Champion Author Flint Posts:7,675 Points:1,105,205 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:13:23 PM Ignore berniMI Report Abuse Time will tell.
paulydel Champion Author Delaware Posts:8,779 Points:847,450 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:12:09 PM Ignore paulydel Report Abuse I didn't see anything about plugging it in which is good.
John747 Champion Author Chicago Posts:472,163 Points:3,623,935 Joined:Aug 2001	Message Posted: Aug 16, 2011 10:11:52 PM Ignore John747 Report Abuse Weight reduction typically means more people will die in accidents. Will the semi's need to downsize also? I didn't think so!